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Totally think this is a brilliant idea. I read the article and she has the understanding as she has had a rough time of it. I would have thought also that coming from a reasonably financially secure family the cliffords wouldnt have had the same exposure to the NHS as us adn therefore would be even more sympathic. We do need a champion for our cause. I wonder if he/she would consider it...... Has my vote. mari
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I do have some concerns about the effect working for a change of name would have on NRAS. If they became involved in any campaign, it would, of necessity, take them away from the work of raising the profile of suffers, campaigning on our behalf and all the other wonderful things Ailsa and the team do for us. All their work is planned to obtain better services and treatment for us, whereas a change of name wouldn't advance that one iota. Other people (non medics etc) would possibly gain a better understanding of the disease, but would it actually benefit us treatment wise if people stopped telling us their granny had a touch in her big toe. Don't want to be awkward but for me the most important thing is better treatment, more clued up GP's, more consultant appointments etc and not what we call the disease. OK, so I do get a bit mad if peple say stupid thing, but at the end of the day, it's my treatment that matters and not what friends, or relatives for that matter, think.
I also think there are a lot of aspects of this that haven't been thought through - Who would decide what the new name would be - not us patients, I am sure, and how many committees and how much money would be expended on that aspect alone which could be spent on better treatment? Just some thoughts.
Love Jeanxxxxx
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No need to worry Jean, I'm sure NRAS will not drop everything to campaign for a name change. I think the name will eventually change from RA to Rheumatoid Disease but it won't happen overnight, it will just quietly evolve, just like Mongolism changed to Down's Syndrome.
Doreen xx
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What an interesting thread this is..... Thank you for that article Amanda xx I must say I'm now definitely agreeing with Jean - i think the focus has to be on raising further awareness, developing more improved services and generally "bigging up" the profile........ I think NRAS has done SO much good work - already raising so much awareness - that a total name change could be detrimental for financial and marketing reasons and could undo some of the good work already in place. For example, from my personal experience - the NRAS booklets for employees and employers have each been SO helpful for me - enabling massive improvements to my workplace experience as an employee with a disability and supporting effective development of awareness for my employers re: rights and responsibilities & how it actually is in the workplace for workers with RA..... i've also have been thinking how very useful this thread has been, its got a lot of people thinking - & hopefully someone from NRAS will be taking an overview..... especially with regards to the comments about getting even more high profile supporters involved to highlight this disease and further develop the already excellent support the NRAS provides.... which leaves me just to say.... Dear Mr Clifford xx If you do happen to read this if you could perhaps pass on Sophie's and my NRAS fundraising details http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/LIZBUCKLEY to a couple of your contacts we would be ever so grateful... xxxxx
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LOL Liz, re Max!
I also agree with Jean and feel that it would be the wrong way to spend ALOT of money when the money could be spent on educating people.
Also, there is the added problem that should the name of the disease ever change, it may cause confusion, ie some people will believe them to be different diseases etc. Rather than risking this, we should focus upon beginning groups in our local area (Oxford here I come!) or becoming phone volunteers. Or just putting up posters in our local surgeries, sending these posters to all our contacts and asking them to also put them up....
Offering back issues of the NRAS mag to surgeries, libraries, even Churches and other organisations may be a consideration.
Love, A
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Brilliant Amanda (have pm'd you). The more people who go into GP surgeries, hospital clinics etc with leaflets and NRAS posters, the better.
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Local groups..........................great idea, BUT they MUST advertise themselves everywhere!! If it wasn't for a message from NRAS I would have had NO idea we even have a local group, never mind where/when it meets. There is NO information in the doctor's surgeries, and its also absent in the hospital department, which has several old ARC posters (well chewed at the corners) and NOTHING AT ALL about NRAS. HOW do we expect people to understand this bl... disease if no-one ""mentions" it in public?? Always be aware that what you do might hurt others........and if it could, do nothing without careful consideration of the consequences
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I know we can get posters and leaflets to give to our surgeries and hospitals but why haven't NRAS already done this? Surely they should be sending them out to hospitals and health centres without us having to ask for them. I only found NRAS through a web search after I'd had RA for 7 years, before that I didn't have computer access but I had never seen any posters or leaflets either.
Doreen xx
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Hi everyone ,
I have enjoyed reading through everyones thoughts and Ideas,there has been alot of good Ideas, Getting hi profile celebs involved is excelant way to raise awareness, I agree with Doreen,why have nras not disriputed leaflets etc, to gp's and hospitals?? Iv thought about this everytime I go but always forget to take any with me(also would feel a bit embarresed) Also I dont like to keep talking about R.A as I feel people do switch off and dont really get it!! I have pinned up a copy of R.A guys 60 secound guide to R.A in the staff room (was slightly embaressed,but its there now and dont want to care if people dont like it!) keep up the thread,
corinne xx
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Hi Corinne, i read the 60 sec guide to RA, its from rheumatoidarthritisguy.com I loved it
jenny xxxx
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That is a good article to put up in surgeries along with NRAS info.
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Hi I know guys st thomases has nras booklets,leaflets,phone line everything its where i heard about it,mentioned to rheumy nurse pleased id joined and go also new about it very pleased also.ive also seen arc at local libary,gp surgery aswell. il take look re nras at gp. been spreading news about nras with church close friends first then upwards next. yes raise awareness best,changing name confusing to those who maybe starting to hear or RA. melly cuddly cats make my world seem so much more fun
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I'm pretty sure NRAS HAVE sent literature out to all the hospitals. I think, though, that "mail" which is not immediately needing an answer may be consigned to the bin, which is where WE come in. After all, what do YOU do with unsolicited mail? Mine goes in the bin. Ring up and ask to speak to the Rheumatology Manager, or failing that the senior sister, and ask if you can take some literature in and pin up a poster. You will get a much better response this way than just via a mail drop. Each time you have a Rheummy appointment, take some stuff in, talk to theother patients and give them a leaflet - I do!!
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They don't seem to throw the ARC stuff in the bin though do they? You see that everywhere.
Doreen xx
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I would imagine this is because ARC is actively involved in research, whereas NRAS is not - maybe wrong. Also, Nearly every time I went to Stepping Hill, the ARC people were out in force in the clinics. I think they are a lot more pro-active than we tend to be. I've also seen them at Wrightington, which used to be totally ARC dominated. They DO have some NRAS posters up now though. I asked my anaesthetist (a friend of Gwenda) if she'd put them up and bless her, she did. Anyone living near Wrightington could nip in from time to time and update them. Jean
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Hello, I have to agree with all thats being said, Instead of reinventing the wheel we would be best served to help ourselves by working with NRAS to get all this good stuff of highering the profile of RA as well as raising money cos with all the cuts you would imagine they are suffering too in this climate. Yes people dont understand fully and we really cant blame them as they havent much experience of RA if they or a loved one dont have it. NRAS spent time and money organising a meeting for us last year to help us fight out corner with the PCTs to get the right type of treatment from swimming lessons to supportive footwear and feedback on our care. I second this local club business as that can give us organisaiton and strategy and we can roll this up then to a national level. I have to say that my two nearest clubs are charring x and sidcup. I have gone to charring x when theres been a talk but I feel a bit hesitant to go to these meetings but probably feel less so if there was something organised but not too organised (if you get my drift). I am sure NRAS would be keen where there is an need that a local club is created to fll that need. There must be a list on the website somewhere with all our local clubs listed. Though I think perhaps someone could possible suggest to NRAS re Max Cliffords' daughter incase they have/ havent already been in contact with the. Regards Mari
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Hi Mari
On the main NRAS website, click on "Help for You" and then "Regional Groups". They are all listed here.
Love Jeanxxx
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Hi all, I tend to agree with raising the profile of RA and circulating information through hospitals and surgeries/health centres etc. I also believe that NRAS should remain independent from research bodies, which are usually backed by drug companies, and are likely to have conditions attached to receiving grants from them.
Love,
Barbara XXXXXX
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I know for a fact that NRAS DO send literature to hospitals and GP surgeries, but they don't always put them up. I've taken magazines to both hospital and health centre. I got a frosty reception at my health centre when I first took them. The nurse, Sally, who at that time I found a bit off-putting, said "I don't know about that, the drs are very particular what goes in the waiting room"!! And that when I've seen motoring magazines!
I do intend to mount a display at the health centre soon, drs permitting.
Lyn
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On the main NRAS website, click on "Help for You" and then "Regional Groups". They are all listed here. Thanks Jean didnt know that going to have a look now corinne x
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